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It’s not as difficult as you think to shout upwind

Researchers unveil and explain a common-sense misunderstanding
To make the measurements, a car was used to move a model of a shouter, generating wind past it.
To make the measurements, a car was used to move a model of a shouter, generating wind past it.

For years, Ville Pulkki has been wondering why it feels so difficult to shout upwind. The sensation is common enough to have found its way into an idiom about not being understood. But Pulkki, a professor of acoustics at Aalto University, wanted a scientific explanation for the phenomenon – and there wasn’t been one. 

In a new study published in Nature’s Scientific Reports, Pulkki’s research team showed that our common sense understanding of this situation is wrong. It isn’t harder to shout into the wind; it’s just harder to hear yourself.

In fact, acousticians have long known that sound carries better within the first 100 metres upwind. Many people have noticed that a siren sounds louder as it approaches and then quieter as it moves away. The mechanics behind this is similar to the Doppler effect, in which a sound changes frequency as it moves. 

Pulkki’s earlier research had confirmed that wind doesn’t affect the emanation pattern of speech, so there was no reason why shouting into the wind would be difficult. He therefore asked one of his master's students, Rapolas Daugintis, to study whether the phenomenon was due to how we hear. Daugintis carried out measurements and simulations to test the idea, and Senior Researcher Timo Lähivaara from the University of Eastern Finland contributed acoustic and flow field simulations.  

Their results were surprising but simple: it’s harder for people to hear themselves when shouting upwind. 

‘When someone shouts upwind, their ears are situated downwind from their mouth, which means that their ears receive less sound – it’s harder from them to hear their shout than when there’s no wind,’ says Pulkki.

The same thing happens when someone is moving quickly even if there’s no wind blowing – if you’re cycling, for example. As a person bikes, their motion generates a wind around their head even in stationary air, and they end up shouting because they can’t hear their own voice well. 

Ville Pulkki ja Rapolas Daugintis
Professor Ville Pulkki (left), photo: Nita Vera/Aalto University and Rapolas Daugintis, photo: Ira Matilainen/Aalto University

So be careful what you shout upwind, for others might hear you just fine, even if you don’t. This information is particularly useful for people who work with sound, such as musicians.

‘My musician friend told me that when they have to sing on a sailboat, they always sit with their back against the wind in order to not strain their voice. The same phenomenon is at play here: because it’s harder for my friend to hear themself when singing upwind, it makes them unknowingly sing louder than usual,’ says Pulkki. 

Further information:

Professor Ville Pulkki
[email protected]
+358 50 520 8392

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